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ofcourse thats why Armenia is the one that keeps claiming. show me your facts, thats right u have none. just because aliyev says something doesnt make it true. all your historians have been criticized by real historians for there inaccuracies. mammadova has been criticized by everyone for being a dumbass.
According to Thomas de Waal, Mammadova have grasped the Albanian theory "to supersede completely Armenians from Caucasus".
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The fraud they called azerbaijan:what the fuck r u talking about archives? what do u think you'll find in those archives? also there was no khojaly genocide, there is no evidence that links Armenia to those murders, think about it. also what r u talking about france?
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ninetoyadome has replied to your comment on The fraud they called azerbaijan:what a shock an azeri cant respnod and show me the so called facts he has. i figured since u were an azeri u had no facts. thank u for proving azerbaijan has no history and they claim Armenias, they claim our land, culture, music and monuments.
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Dear ninetoyadome,
First sorry for being late answering you. I was really busy these days! But I never forget you! So here is your answer. I wish you like it!
Before you I wrote to one Armenian to check if you really want to learn the fact or you want just hear what you wish to hear! All the time he was insulting and at the end I wrote him a glimpse of truth and he got mad and again he went on insulting! I never even listen to Aliyev because he is a president and a man of politics but I’m a Southern Azerbaijani activist so for me deeds speak louder than speech! So I like him but again I never listen to him! If you really want to learn the truth I’m ready to help you or if you are seeking to hear your Dashnakstiyon ambitions go along with you! You are talking about history so I suggest you to study “Iran as Imagined Nation: Construction of National Identity” (written by Prof. Mostafa Vaziri in English). I’ve uploaded a scanned copy of the book at internet
www.boxca.com. or download it from this link:http://www.boxca.com/7szx7wttxw0w/Mostafa_Vaziri-_Iran_as_Imaagined_Nation-_Construction_of_National_Identity.pdf.html
Just write the names you can find a pdf version or go on the link I've written. I’m translating it into Farsi! ANother interesting thing about history is a research "where_do_mama2"! or do
wnload it from this link!http://www.sussex.ac.uk/linguistics/documents/where_do_mama2.pdf
Try reading it! I think then you won't think about the history like this.You know we here at Southern Azerbaijan have Farsi Racism problem and we are planning to teach Persians to re-read their history to give up racism! We have a great book called Iran Turklerinin Tarixi(History of Iranian Turks). The author of the book was Prof. Zehtabi. Persian racists killed him for this. It’s written in Azerbaijani Turkish with Arabics scripts. There we have pictures that was enough to understand that the history in this geography is just a political ware not really a history!
You are talking in a wrong way but I won’t insult like you! But I give you just a source as a sample! Mr Erdoghan Suggested to your president to reveal archives to an impartial international research group to study the so called Armenian Genocide! But your president refused the proposal! Of course we here at Southern Azerbaijan is working to start the same problem for you! According to documents of Russia and writings of our historians 80% population of Irevan were Turkish Muslims but now there is none because our grandpas had told their our dads that 400000 of population of the city all had been massacred by your GREAT ANCESTORS! And we have enough documents about massacres your fathers committed at Southern Azerbaijan Cities, Urumiye, Salmaz, Xoy, and others in the same date of 1915-18! One of our historians has collected the things together in two books “Genocide agaist Muslims on both sides of Araz” before his death! For start to understand the reality you read “
Lt.Col. TVERDOHLEBOV” a Russian Army officer who had been with your fathers at Arzincan and other places! And what a pity for you because he had written about your dads killing and burning and raping Kurds and Turkish population there! You can find his hand writing scanned in the book. Search for it via typing: yarbay_tverdohlebov! Or download it from the link below:http://www.rapidsharesearch.asia/go.jsp?secode=61&id=80948&filegroup=6ae5ddf3-4705-449a-bb9a-298ed5365dc2&title=+yarbay+tverdohlebov+www+PaylasBurada+com&type=rapid&url=http%3A%2F%2Frapidshare.com%2Ffiles%2F...%2Fyarbay_tverdohlebov_www.PaylasBurada.com.pdf
There is another thing! Take a look at Europe! Once there had been a Rom Empire there! But there had been hunderds of nations under thier control! Is it reasonable now Italiand claim for lands of Rom!!! The name of them is now changed into Italia! So a nation may have other names as you claim you had been HAYASTAN! So we are Turks and let we have the permission to read and understand cuniforms of our own lands and ancestors! We are originated from Sumerians and then Manna, Orartos and Lolobeys and Quttis. Then we had our Great Atropat who push back Great Macedonian Alexander and for his honor the land (Manna) took his name! We translate his name (Ath +Ar+Pat) (Ather Commander = and Ather means Lucky gentleman and kan at the end of the word that has change into Jan means place and location). The Arran is a province of Great Azerbaijan and had been occupied by Russia and Southern Azerbaijan had been occupied and subjugated by another Turkish tribe, Qajars and unified in a Federation construction called Mamalikeh Mahrosehyeh Iran! Then North Azerbaijan survived and got independency so what our rivals wished to call the land a name used for a provincial name or a name of the main country to keep us away from each other. Though USSR Stalin wanted to change truth by force in a cooperated process with Persian invaders as if Southern Azerbaijanis had been Turkised Persian Tatis and Nothern Azerbaijanis had been Turkised Armenians!!! But the truth is that all men know their identity and it can’t be dictated by some mob of invaders! But if you like this kind of names and false histories for its benefits it offer you we are here to save our source and lands! Last year an Italian archeologist group was working here (Southern Azerbaijan) seaching and studying Orartos! Please pay attention to this: Iranian Government proposed a great sum to them to declare that The Governors of Orartos were different from their subjects!!! Now you understand that the history here is politics not really history! As Michael G. Morony says: "History is not the past; it is what we say about the past"! SO Please try to be reasonable! Claiming such histories just brings us face to face as it did and is doing at Karabag! Just A RUSSIA and A PERSIAN invader want to save occupied lands of Turan and for this they are deceiving by such false history and then came war and massacre! We kill each other! For a dream and mirage they have shown you! And then sent you to us to occupy or what you call it “freeing you ancient Armenia!!” Really I can’t understand how your politicians dare to think like this! You have occupied a land banished 1/5 million people, killed and burned women and poor children and you are proud telling that you 150 thousands Armenia for comforting yourself did this HOLY THINGS?!?! Do Think about this!
You read the sources as a beginning and then if you get interested to know more about history then I will tell you that you are our neighbors that Russia started to misuse you against us and make up a history for you together with Europeans to fight Ottoman Empire and control us and for this you got an ID card from Orientalists! Now you are trapped between us and are afraid that we may revenge! That’s what has brought us to this status of war! I propose you to struggle for peace not occupying or accusing! Take the way of forgive and forget! You see the same accusation we are to prove against you! So What then? Are we to kill each other and revenge in behalf of our dead? Then again there would be new blood to revenge for by our children as you see now at Karabag! My child is now talking about revenge and I can’t front this because you there occupied and killed and want to make reasons to going on occupying! But we here at your only way of breathing, Sothern Azerbaijan through which you breath by Iranıan Persain Racists and this is our territory and soon or late we will get back our independency and you will have just Turks all around you and Georgia whom you always threaten and want some more land from them! Are you nut? While we can be friends! Karabag can be our common reason for friendship not the point on which must go on fighting and kill! Go to Karabag! There is a Statue of a man and women! Armenians are as old as that there! So be a little fair and reasonable! All problems between us are made by your 'Great Ambitions' for land! I put this text at my weblog and gave the link to readers here because you know we can’t insert a long text like this at youtube comments! There is a copy of your comments there too! Good Luck!
